BitcoinVoucherBot requires a Telegam account (that is bound to a phone number) #18

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opened 4 months ago by l29ah · 3 comments
l29ah commented 4 months ago

Even though the description states "No account".

Even though the description states "No account".
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Hi @l29ah , it's true that you need a Telegram account. This is a bit difficult because the service itself does not require to create an account to any database belonging to them. You may already have telegram for many reasons not related to BitcoinVoucherBot.

Should we consider "account required" even if the account is a collateral of the platform where the service is operating? At the time of adding BVB, I thought that technically Telegram was a separate tool which you might already have for many reasons other than just BVB. But for a person who does not have Telegram and wants to use BVB, they will have to create an account.

Do you think it should state "Account needed" or maybe it is better to add a comment to the service with something like:

You will need a Telegram account to use this service. If you want to create an anonymous Telegram account, you can use these listed SMS services

What do you think?

Hi @l29ah , it's true that you need a Telegram account. This is a bit difficult because the service itself does not require to create an account to any database belonging to them. You may already have telegram for many reasons not related to BitcoinVoucherBot. Should we consider "account required" even if the account is a collateral of the platform where the service is operating? At the time of adding BVB, I thought that technically Telegram was a separate tool which you might already have for many reasons other than just BVB. But for a person who does not have Telegram and wants to use BVB, they will have to create an account. Do you think it should state "Account needed" or maybe it is better to add a comment to the service with something like: > You will need a Telegram account to use this service. If you want to create an anonymous Telegram account, you can use [these listed SMS services](https://kycnot.me/services?type=SMS) What do you think?
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The Telegram account makes you quite trackable, as it isn't cheap/easy to create and maintain, especially separately from your government identity in plenty of countries, and the service knows your Telegram identity each time you interact with it, so for anonymity level evaluation it should be treated as a sort of KYC, and not just a mouseover comment.

The Telegram account makes you quite trackable, as it isn't cheap/easy to create and maintain, especially separately from your government identity in plenty of countries, and the service knows your Telegram identity each time you interact with it, so for anonymity level evaluation it should be treated as a sort of KYC, and not just a mouseover comment.
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You can create an anonymous Telegram account with a cehap fake one-time use number which you can get from any of the listed services https://kycnot.me/services?type=SMS

I don't think that this is a problem because BVB does not enforce you to use a real phone number nor does Telegram. It's your choice.

I've never registered my real number in Telegram, not even with Signal.

KYC stands for the proceess that obligates an individual to identify themselves providing personal identifiable data for that purpose. I don't think this is the case...

For this I think that making a comment specifying that you should use an anonymous account would be more appropriate.

You can create an anonymous Telegram account with a cehap fake one-time use number which you can get from any of the listed services https://kycnot.me/services?type=SMS I don't think that this is a problem because BVB does not enforce you to use a real phone number nor does Telegram. It's your choice. I've never registered my real number in Telegram, not even with Signal. KYC stands for the proceess that obligates an individual to identify themselves providing personal identifiable data for that purpose. I don't think this is the case... For this I think that making a comment specifying that you should use an anonymous account would be more appropriate.
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