#180 German TLD

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opened 1 week ago by PhilippMayrTH · 4 comments

Why do we rely on a foreign country to maintain our TLD? I suggest do change it to .eu or .de.

Why do we rely on a foreign country to maintain our TLD? I suggest do change it to `.eu` or `.de`.
hw commented 1 week ago
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Domains .de suggests a very national scope (surely FOSS should not be bound to national borders?), .eu might be worth a thought. Other projects like wikipedia service multiple country domains for redundancy, this might be an interesting option long-term. However it would imply some spending we need to discuss.

Domains `.de` suggests a very national scope (surely FOSS should not be bound to national borders?), `.eu` might be worth a thought. Other projects like wikipedia service multiple country domains for redundancy, this might be an interesting option long-term. However it would imply some spending we need to discuss.
fnetX commented 1 week ago

The term “a foreign country” depends on your point of view. Changing it to a German TLD would change it to a TLD managed by a country which is foreign to 99.99 % of the world's population.

I know this comparison is somewhat misleading since the actual user base of Codeberg.org is of course not to be compared with the world's population, but there are many international coders over here, so I'm sure the .org TLD is the best choice for an international project which aims at being an open organization like codeberg does.

I strictly disapprove a change of the TLD. I disapprove an exclusive treatment for Germany (like an additional German TLD). I don't see any need for supporting multiple domains at all.

~ I think that it's not wrong that a TLD is managed by some country, however, it might be better to have a true common management for .org domains. What I find worse is that most TLDs are technically managed by private companies - I'd prefer to change that on a global scale. But that's a different topic to discuss somewhere else :-)

The term "a foreign country" depends on your point of view. Changing it to a German TLD would change it to a TLD managed by a country which is foreign to 99.99 % of the world's population. I know this comparison is somewhat misleading since the actual user base of Codeberg.org is of course not to be compared with the world's population, but there are many international coders over here, so I'm sure the .org TLD is the best choice for an international project which aims at being an open organization like codeberg does. I strictly disapprove a change of the TLD. I disapprove an exclusive treatment for Germany (like an additional German TLD). I don't see any need for supporting multiple domains at all. ~ I think that it's not wrong that a TLD is managed by some country, however, it might be better to have a true common management for .org domains. What I find worse is that most TLDs are technically managed by private companies - I'd prefer to change that on a global scale. But that's a different topic to discuss somewhere else :-)
PhilippMayrTH commented 6 days ago
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What I had in mind was taking away power from Five Eyes countries after all managing a TLD is something every countriy within the EU can do as well. I dont know what additinal power a country managing a TLD would have as Im not so deep in that part of networking but I would bet it makes for easier MITM attacks. Keeping in mind the unstable political situation one might also imagine an export embargo which could potentially cut off access to .org domains for certain countries even though this server is located in Germany and should not be affected by such embargos. While I agree a federated management of .org domains would be nice I cant see it happenig. It was certainly not my intention to imply other nationalities shouldnt be able to collaborate here.

What I had in mind was taking away power from Five Eyes countries after all managing a TLD is something every countriy within the EU can do as well. I dont know what additinal power a country managing a TLD would have as Im not so deep in that part of networking but I would bet it makes for easier MITM attacks. Keeping in mind the unstable political situation one might also imagine an export embargo which could potentially cut off access to `.org` domains for certain countries even though this server is located in Germany and should not be affected by such embargos. While I agree a federated management of `.org` domains would be nice I cant see it happenig. It was certainly not my intention to imply other nationalities shouldnt be able to collaborate here.
Pik-9 commented 6 days ago

I agree with PhilippMayrTH. In my opinion one the main selling points of this portal and therefore one of the main reasons not to use Github, Gitlab, Sourceforge, Bitbucket, etc. is that it is not US based! Just think about how much technology and intelligence (and therefore power) is concentrated in that one country. What would happen if the political situation changed and they denied the rest of the world access to their services or just shut them down for whatever reason.

A .de TLD would be a bit country specific indeed, but I consider an .eu TLD a great way to emphasize the fact that this is one of the very few non-US based FOSS hosting platforms.

I agree with PhilippMayrTH. In my opinion one the main selling points of this portal and therefore one of the main reasons not to use Github, Gitlab, Sourceforge, Bitbucket, etc. is that it is not US based! Just think about how much technology and intelligence (and therefore power) is concentrated in that one country. What would happen if the political situation changed and they denied the rest of the world access to their services or just shut them down for whatever reason. A `.de` TLD would be a bit country specific indeed, but I consider an `.eu` TLD a great way to emphasize the fact that this is one of the very few non-US based FOSS hosting platforms.
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